Well Done Indiantown
The past year and a half have presented a great deal of challenges for all of us. It is no different for non-profit and commercial businesses alike. As the world went into lock down, the needs did not stop.
Groups like the YMCA and others experienced a lack of volunteers and events. The people and the money dried up real fast. This did not mean that there were not on going needs. So as time passed and the weeds became taller and the limbs grew longer, effort was needed.
Effort is exactly what the YMCA received today. As an Editors note to this story, we would like to take the privilege of thanking Tony Z (Zweiner) for organizing this effort. Weeks of planning and discussion took place way before the cleanup to insure a job well done. Thank You.
There is also credible discussion taking place regarding the awesome swimming pool at the “Y”. TAM has learned of an effort underway to secure a benefactor for the renovation of the pool. Wait until you hear this story. The pool is just the first part. So Standby !
To all the people in the community that helped, you are the best.
The past several days have developed in such a way that time to reflect on what really matters has been uninhibited. The lack of digital noise can really make a difference you know. We understand our good Village Manager, Howard Brown has been down as well with some of the same type of focus-oriented opportunities.
Hi Folks – NoMo here – It is great to be back – There are so many places we need to go on this episode, So, strap yourself in and hang on as we take you down the Rabbit Hole One More Time.
As usual Mr. YEO leads the TAM hit parade of charts with another good old young socialist verbal evacuation. He just can’t stop telling us how bad America is. The same guy that said he did not think the Village should fund the 4th of July. Did you wonder Indiantown why you did not have Village Fireworks? It was Antony.
As it turns out he has a convenient way of excluding certain history though. It is almost like he has been brainwashed into a rewriting of our past. Our past, you know, our history, where some people did something.
Here is an example of the type of things people did. Still, it is excluded from his mainstream historical narrative.
Did you know that in the years 1819 until 1861 “American War Vessels” patrolled the waters of Africa to make certain that NO human life was being taken captive? The only reason it ended in 1861 was because of a small homeland matter we call The United States Civil War. You know the war that had men, white men and black alike stopping slavery.
We doubt too that Mr. YEO was ever taught that up and until the fourth and final version of the Constitution there was a clause abolishing slavery. Thomas Jefferson was adamant about its inclusion as evidenced by the emphasis he added in to the text. As the story goes, From Many One. We had to be resolute among our cause with all 13 of the Colony or we all would surely hang. There were two States that remained against the inclusionary verbiage. In the end, the clause was removed. There are volumes written about this. but do we hear them?
From the year 1776 in our Declaration of Freedom & Independence, until the end of the civil war, we, Americans shed blood, we fought and lived to make sure that no man was enslaved to another. Then a new type of enslavement began. It was the encampment of low-income Americans in 50’s and 60’s disguised as the “War on Poverty”, predominantly but not exclusively, black. The Civil Rights Movement is not to be considered the same thing.
With Dr, King and others, men of all race locked arm and demanded the end to the walls of segregation and opportunity. They demanded a balancing of the scale. Men of all race did so. Men of all race bled. Men of all race made effort towards the same end.
What we did as American’s had never been done by a nation on the face of this planet in mankind’s history. We were the first. The first to fully abolish all forms of slavery. The world soon followed.
America is and was then a brave idea of equality not equity. How any American could vote for a man that hates the same ideals he took oath to defend, is beyond me. That though is Antony.
So, when Mr. YEO emptied his blow hole on Juneteenth about why we should not celebrate the 4th of July you just have to ask yourself if there are more of him out there? Is Indiantown that far gone as not to see the ugly self-serving half-truths he tells?
Remember, this little Socialist was elected. Of course, he was not sporting his YEO flag then either, was he?
We have a hard time here @ TAM believing that there are enough people in this Village a second time to get him back in office. That is unless he gets his $2000 stipend to grease the rails of public opinion a bit. One thing Antony is, is a one ring promoter.
Next on our radar are the numbers from this year’s property appraisals in Martin County. A big shout out to Mrs. Fields for her offices hard work.
As it turns out Indiantown went down a couple points while the rest of the County increased in property assessment values. What this means in simple terms is that the 288k from residential property taxes will decline even further as a part of the Village budget. FPL reduced slightly too but still will provide enough revenue for safe operations under normal conservative fiscal policy.
It is that last part that we fear may be lost on some. The Conservative Fiscal Policy that is. Given the lack of financial conservatorship shown by Howard Brown and his spend happy Council, we doubt they will let it slow them down.
Now that Fire Rescue’s opportunity for budget building is down the tubes, Howard needs something else to increase his budget numbers.
See his salary uses the annual budget as part of the formula for his wage justification. So, the more he can budget, of FPL’s money, the more he makes. What better to spend your money on than a new Town Hall. We can promise you that the top admin staff will not be sitting on the ground floor either once it is done.
Instantly though one has to ask the question, “What is wrong with the offices that few of you spend much time in anyway?”
What services can you not provide from the current location?
Who does this serve, the Government or the People?
Remember too that in less than eighteen months a re-negotiation with FPL will be in the works. You know, the guys that hold the purse string. The 85% of the purse.
Also, the Villages revenue declined this year. Wouldn’t a normal budgeted family look at that and say, no Disney this year kids!
As a matter of fact, I can all but assure you that it will not be given much consideration except maybe by Susan. You would think Janet as an accounting type for the Church would be slowing this down as well.
Two more quick items. First, after reading Friends & Neighbors Sunday biweekly edition by Tom Campenni we thought that he summed up the whole idea of “personal accounts” for each Councilperson neatly. The following from our friend Tom;
“How do you make something seem nefarious? Just ask Dowling to present it.”
“For some time now, he has been seeking to have each council member have a discretionary fund of $2,000 per year. This would be spent for special events that he or other council members may have through the year…….”
“Dowling brought up that he had to pay for a park rental permit for one of his events. If it is not a sanctioned village event, then he should pay for the permit. Where does the political end and a legitimate public purpose begin? Gibbs-Thomas said it doesn’t bother her to pay when she does something that the village hasn’t sanctioned.”
You can read more here.
Last but by no means least, a bit of good news. As we know this past year and a half have been extraordinary in many ways. The outcome of the recent past events has left many Civic Organizations in lean pasture. Not necessarily money, but from volunteer efforts.
Well as it turns out the YMCA in Indiantown is one of those Civic Groups. On Saturday the 17th at 8AM, local residents are bringing shovel, rake, mowers, trailers and a smile. They will be there to begin the process of returning the YMCA back into her better self. If you would like to help our own Tony Z is organizing the cleanup and he would love to hear from you. Drop him a line in his e-mail TonyZ@TalkAboutMartin.com . Also Look for an announcement coming soon about a new TAM Contributor that will be joining our team more to follow on that in the days ahead.
Alright – that’s all for now and remember to subscribe for insider updates here on TAM
So, until next time, standby
Tony Z Needs our Help
It Is For The Kids
Be sure to e-mail him today ITownAsking@gmail.com with your ideas and assistance.
Think back to the three expedited discussions that we just had publicly about the Tractor Supply development efforts. With only one of those being open public discussion. Not comment, but discussion.
We went from the development application being heard by the PZA on a Wednesday, then exactly one week later a Town Hall in Indianwood. Then one day later a final vote by the Council to approve. Eight days of public discourse.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Let’s look.
On the good side the government sure is efficient in their clerical and administrative details. To what benefit for you, us, WE THE PEOPLE, is there for this rush of over efficiency to shove it through with such haste?
With an election coming you better make sure you know what you want to turn your Village into, what is their vision for you?
Be certain of the fact that your Council knew of this way in advance and had several opportunities to speak with the people involved. They knew well before you even heard a whisper of the plans. You only had 8 days though.
There is one caveat to this that is worth the mention.
Credible first-hand sighting of a Human burial on that property several decades back was presented to the PZA Board that voted 4-1 to approve it. They also approved what is a list of variances required to meet the same rules they are supposed to be safe guarding.
Even with the reality of a human body in their midst there was not even a whisper of getting answers before they voted. People like Marjorie Beary asked solid questions that raised serious concerns. Still though – Zoom Zoom!
Tony Zweiner was the only one that dissented with his vote. He said, “The sanctity of Human life is worth the effort to slow this down and make sure that what we are doing is right.”
Further he explained to his fellow Board Members that they were there to uphold the structure and letter of the LDR’s. “Not doing so would set precedent and create a potential for lawsuit moving forward.”
The LDR’s are the rules people have to follow to build anything in Indiantown. The idea being that everyone has an equal right to development under equal rules. When you allow variance for interpretation, well, who gets to interpret next time? The one that is paid the most?
What if you do not allow the next developers variance for similar reasons like you just did for Tractor Supply? That sounds more like equity than equality. It sounds like legal issues.
That next week after the PZA vote, there was a town hall at Indianwood Retirement Park. This is where the theme started to perform a rehearsed form of dialectic legal pattern. You heard it twenty times if you heard it once, “We met everything we were required to do.” Meaning, you should just approve us or we will sue you.
The problem with that though is they did not do everything required. They just wanted that drum beat to pound in your heads and your ears like the propaganda it is. Edward Bernays would have been proud.
See, they had to get approval from your Council to set aside portions of those common Land Regulations in order to give the developer the permission to build. Your Village Council in a 4-1 vote, voted for some pretty big variances from the rules, Ms. Gibbs-Thomas was in dissent. She said no to the variances.
Because of the 4 Village People who voted “YES”, the next guy has an argument to make that they deserve the same types of favors for exemption from the rules.
Not only that, did you see how quickly Antony was willing to sell the Peoples Development Rights to the highest bidder?
What do we mean? He gave away the value of the opportunity like a childish promoter. He did so for his more for his own gain of notoriety.
When we spoke with Ms. Gibbs-Thomas, we asked her what her general take was on the whole development affair.
To summarize the discussion, our general takeaway was this; Every piece of land in Indiantown that has the potential to be built on is fixed in number. There are only so many acres to build on. That makes the limited amount of land pretty darn valuable if you are looking to cash in. Like Tractor Supply was.
That makes the land a very valuable commodity. One people are willing to pay handsomely for. The Village Council in the end are the commodity brokers in a way. When you really stop to consider what she is saying, she is right.
There is only so much land, why back down from the first challenge of the rules, the LDR’s like Antony did?
Jackie, Janet, Antony and staff on more than one occasion has heralded the rules as the best in the land. Why not stand up for them instead of selling out to the first offer that comes down the pipe? Or do they have no real value to them?
You see, Antony was quick to rush in and give away the store if he had too. One has to ask why? For what?
What benefit is there to the people of Booker Park or Up town?
What benefit for Indianwood or the local businesses?
As it turned out the Developer said he had a deal breaker on one of the rules that the Village required and the Village either set the rule aside or Tractor Supply was walking. How did Antony take it?
This is a picture of a sitting Councilman obviously praying with his Economic Development Director during discussion on the matter.
What else could they be doing IN THE SUNSHINE while the meeting is taking place?
What was said?
We will never know, in a public meeting, what was said by the two of them. That is wrong and very unethical. Play time is over. The people deserve better.
Especially when there is no consideration for the Hometown Family-owned businesses. Seems like an agenda by the few. Somehow, what has been here is not good enough and there is no loyalty or consideration to those who brought Indiantown this far. Elected or not.
So, for the $5,000.00 a year in additional taxes and the 6 to 8 people that will be employed (their numbers from the application) no one can point to another economic benefit when asked. Two of those jobs are management and will come from outside. So, we gain 4 clerk’s positions in Indiantown. For those four people we are sure the work will mean a lot. Good Luck.
The Staff claims that you, the People of Indiantown asked for this type of high density commercial retail development.
OK, so let’s recap a bit because there is more.
- So far, a development of impact application was heard by the PZA and the Council in an 8 day window.
- There was one opportunity for a poorly advertised Town Hall.
- There were over 400+ pages of related material to digest in a very short period of time.
- There was question of the still unsettled outcome of the Human remains. More on that in a minute.
- There was no consideration, by four Council people for the value or sanctity of the rules the Council is charged with guarding.
At this point it seems fair to say, something is just not right about all this.
Did you know that there is an additional 35 freshly platted acres adjacent to the Indianwood community for similar buildout? They are already being brokered by certain powers in town. This will bring much more commercial density, noise, light and criminal element in the Village.
The transitory nature of the people in and out of the new development is cause for concern. Time and the crime blotter will tell the outcome on that one.
If we are to be governed then we should demand better from our elected. Know that this is just the first of what will be many similar applications for commercial retail coming forward. Not only there, but elsewhere.
If you were not there or did not see any of the three meetings, we will help you out.
Know this though. Your non participation in the process is enough to offset the needed weight of those that do participate. Your voice does matter, stand with your neighbor in your interests and theirs or what you have in store will be far worse than one Tractor Supply.
As you are hopefully seeing with fire rescue and now this freight train that just crashed the door, governance is not designed to be a spectator’s sport. The good people of Indiantown need to either get up off their backsides or wallow in the mess that is about to ensnare you.
In reference to the potential of human remains being known to exist on the property, TAM has been busy. We have contacted the MCSO under FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) in an effort to follow what is taking place as the Florida Statute requires.
We have also been in contact with an Independent Anthropologist that has used their access to satellite images to confirm that the mound is where it was reported to be. Given the nature of the potential, we are hopeful the owners will be willing to let a third party that does not have a dog in the hunt do some digging as they say. We do not mean having the developer hiring or pay them either. How cozy of an outcome can that produce? We mean a true independent.
Oh, one last thing needs to be said to the those insisting that the story of remains is a “rumor”.
Your daughter was seen making out with someone a few years back in the woods. That is a rumor.
Having three eyewitnesses as well as several sources of corroborating independent knowledge about the burial of human remains is not a rumor. It is a matter that deserves the attention of everyone. That way we can make sure that the outcome of the investigation will bring satisfactory answers for everyone.
So, until there is law, eyewitnesses and corroborating knowledge, we cannot start an investigation into the rumor of your daughter. An investigation has begun however with the eyewitness accounts and corroboration from independent sources of remains on the property.
God Rest Their Soul.
We have a lot more for you to follow on this and we will keep you updated on what we find. So, until next time step out, step up, get involved and – Standby
What is a PZA Board?
TAM would like to put a shout out to the Village of Indiantown PZA Board.
Our own TAM Contributor Tony Z is a serving member of the Board. The Board serves at the pleasure of the Council. One of their job’s is to review development proposals from persons that want to build on the land within the Village. Developers like the PZAB Chairman. Businesses like Tractor Supply.
The Staff spends an up-front amount of time keeping busy with the busy work they create to make sure that the application meets their basic requirements so everyone can be busy. If the application does not meet the busy work requirements, the Board discusses the reasons and potential fixes.
Beyond that they also make recommendation to the Council on approval, disapproval or changes they feel should be made. The outcomes from the PZA Board on development applications are not the final say. Just recommendations.
We tell you this because your PZA Board in the Village got hit upside the head with a big wet Tuna on an attempt to get through their first big development review. Before we get to the actual meeting there are some parts that need to be filled in.
May we say in all good nature to the good Village, please get the Board some training in Roberts Rules of Order. The parliamentary procedure being used is explainable, rough and very novice. Explainable because the people that were chosen appear to never have being exposed to parliamentary procedure.
We know you have had a workshop. Apparently, it is nowhere near the level of training the Board should be given after watching the next vote that was taken in the same workshop. As a friendly piece of advice to the Council members; if you are not going to appoint people with previous exposure to parliamentary procedures and rules, then be prepared to train them. It reflects on you.
That being what it is. We want each of the members, whom serve with no compensation, to know that we are grateful for their willingness to put themselves in the position to help amplify the voices of their neighbors in the process of growth in your community.
By having the microphone, they have a way to recommend changes or non-approval of development efforts. They are your neighbors. The recommendations & rulings of appeal they make can and should reflect the interest of all. With the interest of the People first.
This was demonstrated in orchestrated detail by one of the Board members when discussing the Tractor Supply. Her friends call her “Maggie” (Marjorie Beary). TAM has not had an opportunity to speak one on one with her yet. We understand from some that we actually are not very well liked by her. Too bad really. We hope we can find common ground with Ms. Beary and one day meet.
We wanted to highlight her efforts at the last meeting for a reason. The first of which was her level of participation. Not only did the Board member perform her reading assignment. She took on extra credit reading as well. We could hardly stay in our seats when we watched her in action.
Do you know how refreshing it was to see a Board working in the direction it was designed to?
Her points were spot on with a number of items. A couple of which are the Heritage and wildlife on the undeveloped land.
We have been told by persons that know several of the Board members that “Maggie” is a Masters level Librarian and researcher. Wait it gets better. She has a compatriot on the Board with the same or similar Masters level skill set. It showed too. Her knowledge of the application and her points made were beginning to sound like a real issue for the applicant, Tractor Supply.
In the same meeting, Tony Zweiner brought to light a first-hand account from a local resident that they had witnessed a burial on the property when the witness was eight years old. It was believed to be an Indian. Now new information has surfaced and it appears it was a woman that lived in town. Her family was buried there and she wanted to be added to it. Recent reports to the Martin County Sheriffs office have resulted in interviews and investigation. Stay Tuned
During the period of time this was witnessed there was an enclave of Native Americans that were living in Indiantown. While it is not “officially” a Seminole mound it does not preclude it from being of another tribe or purpose. So now we have reasonable reason to think there may be a body buried, If not a family.
Well, you could have heard a pin drop when “Maggie” told the meeting that she had the coordinates on her GPS. She walked that property with frequency she said. It was 15’ in diameter she said.
Now, this is how the process should work. We could not believe our eyes. The Board was actually doing their job and due diligence.
Our expectation was that one or more of them would vote to table the development application for a period of time and return to investigate the remains. In the least.
Instead, staff drafted the language to be uttered by them and passed it out to the Board like good little puppets. Then they read their script and everything sailed right through for Tractor Supply.
Well, it sailed through after a strong chastisement from Althea. She has once again demonstrated quite openly that she has an attitude problem. Who has ever heard of staff drafting the motions for approval? Did she offer a motion to table too? There is a whole list of things that are wrong with this picture.
Well, this was about the time that the collective air was let out of the refreshing sounds that were filling the meeting. All of the sudden the same people that had issue with lighting, drainage, wildlife and more were voting for approval. We could not believe it. There was credible enough information placed in front of them that they expressed reservation with the plan in discussion. Then you have the small fact that PEOPLE may be buried on the property. Oh well, everyone of them, with exception one, Tony Zweiner, voted to approve the application for Council Rubber Stamping.
From what we saw of at least three of the Board members, the application should have rightfully been tabled to deal with some of the more blaring shortcomings with the application. Like the Light Trespassing they voted for. This will allow light to leave the lot and infringe on their neighbors, Indianwood.
Remove 250 trees and decrease run off by 50%?
Another was the fact that they said they needed the additional light because of the potential of “Felony Thefts” occurring with merchandise stored outside. So, they are creating the potential for felony criminals to be on the border of a retirement park. Then they are only allowing 50 yards of landscaping to keep the transitory foot traffic from leaving the parking lot and wondering into the retirement community, Indianwood.
That is what we mean when we say this should have been slowed down for a bit. The PZAB has full authority to do so. They are supposed to be taking the rough edges off before it meets the Council for discussion. They would only be doing their job.
So, you can see why we said they got hit with a big wet Tuna on their first outing. We are encouraged by the interrogative nature of the Board. We hope to see it perform as it should without political mandate or team players. It is meant to do a job for the people. How this Board decides to behave is directly going to affect every citizen and business in the Village of Indiantown. We will pray for you. So, again thank you to all that serve, it is never easy and there is always someone that is going to complain.
Your efforts are appreciated.
Your efforts will be watched.
Your efforts will be scrutinized as well.
So please continue with your level of energy and expertise.
Let the researcher come out in you all and please keep your eye on the ball.
More to follow – Stand by
Just Plain Funny
A TAM EXCLUSIVE
The following is a four part special report recorded by Tony Z. When Ms. Susan Gibbs-Thomas had a meeting with Fire Rescue, she wanted you to hear what they had to say. So Tony went with her to record it and get you the information you need to make an informed decision.
Talk About Martin is considering a Listening Tour in Indiantown
Recent strong arm tactics of intimidation and threats, Bullying from the Dias during meetings, reported threats of blocking money for grants and well documented malfeasance on the part of Howard Brown and four of the Village People while dealing with your life and livelihood seem to suggest, we need to Talk Indiantown.
TAM has witnessed a lot of passion, energy and desire to right this listing ship called The Village of Indiantown. Some of the ideas being offered are Recalling Sitting Council Members. Pressing for an AG investigation into possible corruption, Dissolution of the Village all together and New Strong Adult Candidates for office.
We have seen petitions of over 530 signatures against Fire Rescue Changes and have seen some Politicos double down on the bet. How can you make them listen? We can help.
We would like to cut through the hype and share what know to be fact and listen to your ideas on the matter. So let us know if you think it is worth your time.