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Where: Indiantown Civic Center-15675 SW Osceola – Indiantown, FL 34956
When: Tuesday September 29th, Starts promptly @ 6:30PM
More to follow – Please share this out with your friends and Facebook groups.
The Honorable Councilwoman Miss Susan Gibbs-Thomas will be on hand to represent the Village Council.
We are busting with pride to announce to you that the Indiantown Chamber of Commerce will be CO-SPONSORING the Fairground Discussion and Update. We have been working to bring you a whole lot more in the near future that is in partnership with the Chamber in Indiantown. Maybe some open air citizen councils to discuss public matters like Park and Recreation, Beautification, LDR’s etc. In the meantime – Let’s Talk About the Fair with everyone.
Also, we have asked Ms. Susan Gibbs-Thomas if she would please represent the Village Council at this meeting and she has happily agreed to do so.
We welcome all the residents, businesses and interested party – Dates for Palm City and Indiantown to be announced soon.
(16 SEP 20) – Today, The TAM Editor reached out to the Martin County Fair Association Director and asked him a question.
We asked him this. “If TAM is able to accommodate a TOWN HALL meeting of citizens in Indiantown and in Palm City would he and his Association come and update us on what the developments are in with the new Fairgrounds”.
Well, Jay, being who Jay is, said OF COURSE. We explained that there is a lot of foggy air and disinformation that the TAM wanted to help clear up. We explained that the best information we could find was a one year old Video from the MCTPA. Besides, no one else is keeping us up to date with the info so we thought we would ask.
So we did. When we did ask the Fair Association agreed.
Jay thought it was a great idea to offer an opportunity to have a discussion and update. Same as John Haddox has indicated on our FB TAM site.
So, standby – we are working with a community partner in Indiantown and Palm City to help make sure this is a worth while educational civic event for the People. We are excited and know that you will not want to miss this opportunity to see what is coming your way – real soon.
We believe that up front discussion will help to prevent after the fact suspicion. We believe up front information and feedback will make for an even more successful MC fair that benefits the community even more so.
Please join us as community members to learn more about our world and the things that will be there in our future and our children’s.
As soon as we have a date we will announce our community partners in the event.
You see, when we all come together around a single mission, well, we are unstoppable. We want to thank the MC Fair Association, their Board and all the people involved. They are doing the lifting. Let’s give them an objective and informative platform to show us what they are doing on our behalf.
Maybe we should rename MLK Blvd. to BLM Road.
After all it seems MLK is a thing of the past. Maybe Malcolm X Lane instead?
What your Young Elected have been taught about America is sad.
In the broadest sense, Black Lives Matter refers to a protest movement spawned by recent and repeated instances of black men and women being killed under apparently controversial to outrageous circumstances. It traces its origins to the 2012 fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman (who was acquitted of Martin’s murder) and to “three radical self-avowed Marxist Black organizers—Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi.”
Critics blame BLM for worsening race relations in America. Even family members of Jamar Clark, who was shot by police in 2015, have urged BLM to settle the protests because “there’s a fine line between protesting a cause and hurting the community.”
One of BLM’s originating activists, Alicia Garza, has argued that black people cannot be racist, because “Racism is a system” rather than the act of merely judging people based on race.
Then you have Groups like the YEO Networks, that support the same policy platforms of Social Justice and Progressive ideology. They are another offshoot of funding and activism that develop and assist in cultivating young elected officials in small governments to continue the same policy track as BLM is using at State and National levels.
There seems to be a mantra forming here of We no longer need permission – we are just going to do what we want.
The cross over of policy between these two organizations is amazingly identical. It shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone though when you look for example to how BLM is funded. Very much the same way that YEO is funded and by the same groups and radical far left Marxists that are currently trying to dismantle the American way of life.
Why is that important? Well, it is no longer just in the BIG CITY. Indiantown, you have a sitting Councilmen on the Indiantown Village Council that is a member of both groups. As a matter of fact he has brought BLM to our town. While the gatherings in Indiantown have not been violent, yet. They did espouse the same language of hate and fairytail topics like systemic racism, white privilege and a muddled view of diversity.
Systemic racism is the idea that anyone of NON-COLOR is naturally racist from birth. It is just built in they say. Really? Check your privilege they will say. Uh Huh.
Your Village Council railed on this during their STRATEGIC WORKSHOP as well. Other fairytail ideas like White Privilege and “forced equality through edict or law” were thrown into the mix. As well as forced diversity through contractual and ordinal edict.
They did more than just talk about it. They said it is the STRATEGIC MISSION of your elected leaders in Indiantown to advance these Social Justice ideals. This amounts to nothing more than forced Cultural Marxism through Critical Theory. This is what happens when you do not know the people you elect and then give them the keys after dark.
Long story short. It is unAmerican, It is Socialist at best and Marxist in the light.
So, are all people in the movement bad. No, there are a whole lot of people that are useful idiots that buy into the intersectional tripe that is espoused. There are those that are taking advantage of a situation for their own gain. Then there are those, a large majority, that support the BLM mantra of “Overthrow Capitalism Destroy the Constitution”. Regardless of which type they are, they are standing with an organization that is advocating the overthrow of the United States Constitution.
The same Constitution Anthony Dowling claims to have served to defend. What happened Anthony?
Now if you do not support those things I think it is time to denounce them and show otherwise in your words and actions.
If we have a race problem in this community it will not be solved by allowing elected to mandate your morals and actions in a matter of race relations. You will not solve it by bringing in outside agitators that are burning our Nation Down.
If you really believe their is an issue. Let’s talk. If you want to have a forum to support your radical Marxist and far left leaning BS, then take a hike. We have to begin in a place we all have in common first. We need to build on what we already agree on. Then we can start to talk about the things we do not. Without contrition and reconciliation there can be no Comm-Unity. It is a two way street.
So when your elected Council people start wagging their tongues and fingers telling you that all White people are born racist and that forced equality is the only way they can win, you better know who you are standing alongside. Because you will be known as one of them.
In my circles, we judge a man on the content of his character, not the color of ones skin. There is not a one of us who got to choose our skin color. God decided for us. There is a reason. Try and find it.
The outcome of the recent Village of Indiantown Day long Strategic Planning Workshop should not have surprised anyone. Especially when you understand the underlying lack of maturity and ethical practice of some of the Council members.
Don’t be surprised when you ask yourself how this thing got so out of hand in Indiantown. When you, the citizen allow others to deal with matters for you and you do not oversee those people or their actions, well. You will get what you deserve. Especially when you do not take the time to know the character and philosophy of governance of those you elected.
For example, your Mayor yesterday could not understand why pushing official Government resolutions through five hours before the June 11th General Council meeting, as well as days after the official agenda had been published was wrong. It is not only wrong it is completely antithetical to the American Spirit.
So, Miss Janet let me explain this really easy for you. Because obviously, your education department at your after-school program failed to include civics as a part of your learning. Here we go:
Does that make sense? Probably not or you would not have made so many other ethical missteps along the way.
Let’s try this scenario. It may strike closer to home:
OK, so in this scenario Guy Parker and Tony Z ended up winning. Soon after Guy Parker decides to place a proclamation on the agenda 5 hours before they vote. He is also able to have Tony Z co-sponsor it. The content of the Proclamation was that Indiantown supported Confederate Memorial Day. Would you be as quite about how you were never asked then?
You would be running up and down social media crying about how your voice was not even considered and that its blah blah blah.
See this is the problem. When you automatically assume that EVERYONE agrees with you because somehow you have grown a new brain cell that no one else has because they are not Elected, well you are wrong. The people deserve better. Not doing so is an embarrassment to the American way of governance. You refuse to see how the PEOPLES voice was muted. Here is a deeper look at ETHOS for edification sake.
Not only that, the resolutions were copied from and tailored for the Village from a Progressive Socialist organization by Councilman Dowling. Then somehow you are able to get Anthony to let you co-sponsor, or did he ask you? Either way still the same. All of this happened though in a brief five-hour window without breaking Sunshine laws? Or was there prior pre-planning that would have accommodated more time in the Sunshine with the matter at question?
Can you see how from out here it looks like this is a last-minute co-originated maneuver?
OK, great logistics, I guess. However, if there was such a fire to do this like you were so emphatic about, then why where you not prepared way in advance? Or where you and just decided until the absolute last minute so there would be no opposition?
These topics are not new. That veil of ignorance of fact you continue to wear is getting a little thin. At least you have a veil because our next Councilman is wearing the Emperors clothes.
The Honorable I cannot remember my name without my Title Anthony Dowling who insists that the Council just needs to drag you all along until they get you where he is going. That is NOT leadership – it is tyrannical. But when you elect a self-avowed Progressive Socialists like Dowling what do you expect.
Anthony may have served in the US Army but that does not mean he sees the Constitution the same way most Veterans do. It does not make him all of the sudden patriotic. No, your Councilman is siding with thugs and anti-American political leaders and organizations whose agenda is the over throw of capitalism and the US constitution. So, when he votes and speaks it should shine a little light on where he is coming from.
While he Drags you along as he likes to say, I hope the shackles are not too tight.
Then we have the self consecrated Ms. Clarke that thinks her relationship with God is somehow superior to everyone else’s. Hiding behind a self-declared false Virtue is not Godly and it is not Holy. So, when people of this nature are in charge it is what they emote. Her activity during the election process was beneath the office she represented and was shameful. But I am sure she will attempt to glorify it by demeaning me for pointing it out. One word – contrition.
Then you have Guyton Stone. This man is in and out of court for financial issues more than a Duncan Yo Yo goes up and down. He acts like a thug and threatens people, myself as one, then smiles at you like he is Mr. Family Man and all about being a Nice Guy.
No, the behavior of Guyton Stone is anything but genuine. He uses his office for personal gain and cloaks it as Virtue. Not to mention, he sat through at least two hours of yesterday’s Public meeting without his mask not even being around his neck let alone his face. Do as I say not as I do.
Wonder why you still have an illegal and unconstitutional face mask mandate in place in Indiantown? So do we.
If it is good enough for us then why do the same self-important people that passed it not honor it. You see, they think they are better than you and I. Somehow, they have a superior Brain Cell that they developed once elected.
No More Excuses – open the Village up and get back to business.
Then there is Howard Brown who is a lifelong career bureaucrat. He is trained in and subscribes to globalist practice and standards of Sustainable governance and he is transforming this once wonderful Indiantown community into a web of Global agendas and policy.
These are the same Global people and Organizations that want to tell you how you have to live your life in AMERICA the SAME way the rest of the World does. Guess what – NO !
We will not keep the secrets of anti-American agendas in the dark. They will be exposed and explained for what they are.
So, while the other reporters and pundits pen their articles, mine has taken a different look. Because, you see, what good is pointing out policy faux pas when the people creating them are who they are.
Systemic Racism along with Diversity where loud themes of Strategic Concern being trumpeted. First of all, DIVERSITY? Really, have you even bothered to look at your Council makeup, let alone the Staff? Give me a break!
Plain and simple – Systemic Racism is not REAL – It does not exist.
You see people do not dislike you or I because of our skin color – no none of us got to choose what color we are. What the anger and criticism have to do with is your short sided immature and arrogant approach to governance. I have seen High School Student Councils that have had more ability than the self-proclaimed little Evita’s, Che’s and Malcom’s.
When you read the other articles and try to figure out some of the things those authors are pointing out, do not be so quick to blame them or me for automatic racism. Especially if you disagree. Racism is an excuse and a wedge.
These people are willingly elected. In the Public eye. They are open to these reviews and to these criticisms by virtue of their office. I cannot imagine being so weak that I am offended by words. I would like for my words to be used for praise but when there is no reconciliation or even admission of any understanding of blame, well, praise seems hypocritical. We cannot have UNITY without reconciliation.
There was a time when the norm was for men to act in the best interest of himself and his neighbor, it mattered not the wealth or power accumulated by one or the other. The outcome was beneficial to both when each takes consideration of someone besides themselves.
We can no longer wait for them to grow into their position. Without your oversight, questioning and involvement you will fail to recognize what is to come.
They rebuked or as they say “removed from the table” at their Workshop the formation of Citizen advisory Boards. Instead Anthony decided that they would wait until they developed everything before they give you a say. Otherwise, it was said, they would just have to drag that group around and it would become too much effort. So – they decided to table Citizen Advisory groups – they will drag you along instead. Anthony’s words not mine.
They decided not to let you see the agenda being created in the Sunshine. They opted to remain in a closed door out of the Sunshine process to develop and present the Peoples Business. Sounds more like Chicago than Indiantown.
What do you all have to hide?
Why do you have to meet behind closed door to develop the people’s agenda?
What are you afraid of?
Being held accountable maybe?
To address the obvious person missing in this review up until now, Ms. Susan Gibbs-Thomas. The primary criticism I have of Ms. Thomas is that she allowed the other four to steam roll discussion like White Privilege and Systemic Racism into a STRATEGIC Planning session for your Village. She showed grace under pressure from a systemic attack on her from the Council.
While I sat and watched how the demeanor and unapologetic accusations of racism where being leveled against Ms. Gibbs-Thomas and every other person of non-color, I began to see the true nature of what she has been subjected too.
Many in that room (Council Members) accused her of being on a side. They are fine ones to talk.
They have insinuated that Susan is somehow a leader of a group or tribe while the tribal nature of their actions are flagrant.
If standing on a ground of Constitutionalism and Grace place her as a leader with like minded people. AMEN. Where do I sign up !
Do not confuse leadership by example with leadership by edict. The latter being openly demonstrated by Ms. Clarke when she speaks to White Privelage and Systemic Racism. Or When Anthony speaks to Systemic Racism. Then in turn say MY PEOPLE. Who needs to check their privilege?
Who are your people Ms. Clarke?
Are the White people part of that list?
I know we are on God’s list just like you.
So fellow citizens, when you get angry about things do not be surprised why this is all taking place. It is the actions and words as well as the behavior of the people you elected to represent you. When you elect Socialists, children and thugs to represent you, expect what they give you. Tyrannical self-interest is the agenda you can expect going forward.
We already know that we are going to have accusation leveled against us. We know what we say will be called heresy by many. However, what has been said has needed to be said for a long time. The people of Indiantown need to take back their governance and bring it into the Sunshine before the only people living here are like minded people represented by thugs, bullies, children and agenda driven openly avowed Progressive Socialists.
What you cannot do with a self-honest heart is ignore reality.
It starts with you.
The video below as it has been pointed out By David Hafner is over a year old. We realize that, however the Martin County Taxpayers Association was the nearest place we could find much of any other information about what is going on with the fair. It worked I guess because we have also learned from discussion with David that he sits on the MC Fair Board. That is a reassuring thought. Especially given David’s Political aspirations and his public service interest. He’s a good guy. One of us.
David has also informed us that the meetings are a 70 mile round trip and we can attend if we want. Thank you but making a day trip of attending is not going to happen for most of the people in Western County. Which leads me to our next idea.
If the Fair is coming to Indiantown – then shouldn’t you guys be meeting here too?
Former Commissioner John Haddox thinks this is a good idea too.
Shouldn’t Indiantown and even Palm City be the epicenter of discussion, planning and presences? It just seems logical I guess. I mean we are going to be the epicenter of the fair shortly.
The East Coast has decided to off load the fairground property after decades of maneuvering and financial manipulation. Now it is going to happen. Thanks to a deal between Kevin Powers, the South Florida Water Management District and the Fair.
The question we have for the residents of the area most effected by the decision are:
These are not complaints. They are adult observations. If you want to make great things happen then ask the people you are going to drop this on what they think, before the plan is done. Not after the fact. We are asking for the respect that Western Martin County has been screaming for the past several decades.
Well, you have a chance now to participate and make a difference. So what will we do? Will we just get all excited because we can have elephant ears and roller coaster rides closer to home like little kids? Or will we ask the tough questions about the fact that not if, but what and when these impacts will be felt. Not all the potential impact is negative either.
But folks, if we do not address the issues before they become issues, they are going to be real problems later. Lawsuits, crime, traffic, noise. If you do not represent your interest now then when will it get represented? See this is a group effort people. If you think electing people and then having a “give me party” is the way this works, well guess again. Those type of things only benefit one group. It is not the people either.
Is there anyone out there that thinks having a voice in their future is a good thing? That is all we are asking for is a voice. Just like every other little guy out there that feels like the system is steam rolling them for others benefit. It is our turn now.
Are you you hearing us MC Fair? Can we talk? Editor@TalkAboutMartin.com
We would like to help arrange meetings and discussion forums with the Western County folks. Will you assist us in this process?
This is a video from The Martin County Tax Payers Association. You can see it and others here:
One of the arguments for moving the Fair Grounds is the Congestion on A1A. I can’t wait to see how Palm City and Indiantown are bottle necked and effected by loud music and other events besides the Fair.
The video is an interview with the Fair Director and explains the process and ideas that are being proposed.
Do you think we should request a Town Hall Meeting, not with the Village Government, just the folks and the Fair to discuss the project and begin asking questions before we are locked into whatever they decide goes?
Stay informed. The agenda of those in charge is not always your agenda. Keep Watching!
HERE is a link to our recent FB Discussion on the topic
we will still be watching – so keep up the good work. There is a long way to go.
At a recent private gathering, the TAM had opportunity to discuss some Village issues with the First Mayor of Indiantown, Ms. Susan Gibbs-Thomas.
One of the more important things we learned involved her idea to change the way the Village creates their agenda. We asked a lot of questions and Ms. Gibbs-Thomas was more than happy to answer them in depth.
The video below is our takeaway as to what Ms. Gibbs-Thomas is suggesting.
We believe Ms. Gibbs-Thomas is sincere when she explained how she knows that this is real important for Indiantown. Please take the time to watch and consider the idea. It is important.
If you think that the Council should discuss this topic at their Annual Planning Workshop let them know: